Comments on: Hart and Girard: Unworldy tenderness sown in human consciences http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/2010/02/03/hart-and-girard-unworldy-tenderness-sown-in-human-consciences/ A scrapbook of thoughts on arts, culture and the Christian life. Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:57:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Matthew http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/2010/02/03/hart-and-girard-unworldy-tenderness-sown-in-human-consciences/comment-page-1/#comment-924 Matthew Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:09:34 +0000 http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/?p=1627#comment-924 Haha! That's hilarious about Girard. Absolutely right though. That's why he's so hard to explain - no good one liners. He really only works in large chunks. Also, the very nature of his theory is that the big reveal is so obvious we still can't see it because it's right in front of our own noses. That other Hart book sounds great. It's moving near the top of the list. Haha! That’s hilarious about Girard. Absolutely right though. That’s why he’s so hard to explain – no good one liners. He really only works in large chunks. Also, the very nature of his theory is that the big reveal is so obvious we still can’t see it because it’s right in front of our own noses.

That other Hart book sounds great. It’s moving near the top of the list.

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Just want to say thank you for blogging about Hart, who I regard with (that word that is not quite worship). I’d love to hear your thoughts about Beauty of the Infinite, which I thought was genuis. Nobody else could get away with throwing around so many big words, but somehow Hart is not pedantic; the robustness of his thought really requires those big delicious terms. I wrote index cards full of new terms and caried them around with me like lozenges.

As for Girard; I always feel like he’s saying something profound but I’m never sure what it is.

]]> By: Matthew http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/2010/02/03/hart-and-girard-unworldy-tenderness-sown-in-human-consciences/comment-page-1/#comment-922 Matthew Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:27:48 +0000 http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/?p=1627#comment-922 Hi Adam, That's encouraging to hear. I've got to check out that Hart book you've mentioned. I decided (after years) to take a class at the university this spring (Music Analysis), and I'm finding that my own vocabulary for talking about aesthetics is almost zero. I also agree that Girard has gotten WAY better with time. His most recent stuff is much more developed than when he was making a stir in the late 70s. Also easier to read! Blessings. Hi Adam,

That’s encouraging to hear. I’ve got to check out that Hart book you’ve mentioned. I decided (after years) to take a class at the university this spring (Music Analysis), and I’m finding that my own vocabulary for talking about aesthetics is almost zero.

I also agree that Girard has gotten WAY better with time. His most recent stuff is much more developed than when he was making a stir in the late 70s. Also easier to read!

Blessings.

]]> By: Adam Ericksen http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/2010/02/03/hart-and-girard-unworldy-tenderness-sown-in-human-consciences/comment-page-1/#comment-921 Adam Ericksen Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:35:42 +0000 http://moscowcoffeereview.com/carpecakem/?p=1627#comment-921 Hello Matthew, Thanks for pointing out the simlarities. I'm reading Hart's "The Beauty of the Infinite" and also see connections between the two. Hart discusses Girard for about 3 pages in Beauty of the Infinite. He seems to think highly of Girard's nonviolent God, but critiques Girard's early work as a failure to distinguish between different nuances of sacrifice within Israelite religion, and thus claims Girard risks leaving all Israel behind. I don't think Hart knows Girard's thought has evolved and has become more nuanced. But as I read Hart's book he does have a lot in common with Girard. They have a similar understanding of desire, identity, and of the nonviolent God. Thanks for pointing out the similarities in Hart's other books. I look forward to reading them. Peace, Adam Hello Matthew,

Thanks for pointing out the simlarities. I’m reading Hart’s “The Beauty of the Infinite” and also see connections between the two. Hart discusses Girard for about 3 pages in Beauty of the Infinite. He seems to think highly of Girard’s nonviolent God, but critiques Girard’s early work as a failure to distinguish between different nuances of sacrifice within Israelite religion, and thus claims Girard risks leaving all Israel behind. I don’t think Hart knows Girard’s thought has evolved and has become more nuanced. But as I read Hart’s book he does have a lot in common with Girard. They have a similar understanding of desire, identity, and of the nonviolent God. Thanks for pointing out the similarities in Hart’s other books. I look forward to reading them.

Peace,
Adam

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