{"id":2718,"date":"2011-07-06T07:03:44","date_gmt":"2011-07-06T14:03:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/?p=2718"},"modified":"2011-07-07T10:02:16","modified_gmt":"2011-07-07T17:02:16","slug":"who-exactly-did-jesus-forgive-while-he-hung-on-the-cross","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/2011\/07\/06\/who-exactly-did-jesus-forgive-while-he-hung-on-the-cross\/","title":{"rendered":"Who exactly did Jesus forgive while he hung on the cross?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.&#8221; (Luke 23:34)<\/p>\n<p>Who is &#8220;them&#8221;? The gentile Roman soldiers who were just following orders? I guess it&#8217;s easy to make an excuse for them. They&#8217;ll hear the gospel later.<\/p>\n<p>Was he forgiving the mob then? The mob caught up in volent mimetic contagion (as Girard would put it)? They really didn&#8217;t know what they were doing either. They were out of control, imitating the thrower of the first stone. We&#8217;ll give them a pass too.<\/p>\n<p>Was he forgiving the religious leaders and murderous plotters as well? The guy who really DID throw the first stone? Better to have a millstone tied around one&#8217;s neck and thrown into the sea than to cause the mob to sin. (Luke 17:2) Is he forgiving the model too? The arch-hater of God? If THAT guy was included in Jesus&#8217; intercession with the Father while he hung on the cross, then who on earth does that leave out?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not trying to advocate including them or leaving them out. I&#8217;m just asking, how hard are we going to work to make sure that someone gets excluded from God&#8217;s statement here?<\/p>\n<p>Earlier, he told the same plotters, to their face, &#8220;You are of your father, the devil!&#8221; (John 8:44) But that&#8217;s the point, right? That&#8217;s why He was there, to reconcile even these sons of Satan.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, this is good news for those of us who are sons of Satan. I think the good news stands. It is not just for the ears of the righteous, or (as Luke 23:34 implies) for the ignorant, but also for the rebellious.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.&#8221; (Luke 23:34) Who is &#8220;them&#8221;? The gentile Roman soldiers who were just following orders? I guess it&#8217;s easy to make an excuse for them. They&#8217;ll hear the gospel later. Was he forgiving the mob then? The mob caught up in volent mimetic contagion (as Girard &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/2011\/07\/06\/who-exactly-did-jesus-forgive-while-he-hung-on-the-cross\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Who exactly did Jesus forgive while he hung on the cross?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2718","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2718","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2718"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2718\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2721,"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2718\/revisions\/2721"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2718"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2718"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/moscowcoffeereview.com\/carpecakem\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2718"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}